Audiences Talk About Pullman, Play

 Wed Mar 20, 1:20 PM ET  

 By MICHAEL KUCHWARA, AP Drama Writer

 NEW YORK - When Bill Pullman first read "The Goat," he wasn't sure if the play by Edward Albee would work in front of an audience. One thing was certain, though: It couldn't be ignored.

 Since opening in early March, "The Goat" has divided theatergoers and critics alike, but the production starring Pullman and Mercedes Ruehl has got them talking, something a new Broadway play hasn't done in a long, long time. 

 "Possibly (the) most provocative play from the chronically provocative Edward Albee," said Variety. "It makes no sense," fumed New York magazine under the headline "Baa, humbug," while The Associated Press called it "as startling as it is satisfying. In fact, it is one of the most satisfying productions of the Broadway season." 

 But then, when the plot concerns a 50-year-old man who confesses to his wife and teen-age son that he is in love with a four-legged creature named Sylvia (the play's full title is "The Goat or Who Is Sylvia?") discussion is bound to be, well, spirited. 

 Not a bad way to return to the theater for Pullman, who in the past 15 years or so has concentrated on films — "Independence Day" and "Lost Highway" among them — and television rather than the stage. And his gamble has paid off. His performances have been uniformly praised as one of the production's strongest assets. 

 In person, Pullman is a modest, laconic and, at 48, still boyish actor, who wouldn't seem out of place riding the range out West, although he grew up in a small town in upstate New York where his father was a doctor. 

 "It is formidable," he says, trying to describe "The Goat" over an omelet breakfast in an Upper West Side restaurant. "The play asks a lot of the whole cast, but it felt to me exactly like the kind of theater I would want to see on Broadway if I was going to see a play. 

 "`The Goat' is about Martin, an architect, quite successful really and very happily married to a wife (played by Ruehl) with whom he has had a full life," Pullman explains. "And yet he has another relationship he is passionate about. And it's about his attempt to maintain two passionate relationships — to test what the limits of love are." 

 Whatever this husband and wife are, they are not George and Martha, the combative twosome who are center stage in Albee's most famous play, "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?" 

 The two people in "The Goat" are "bright, intelligent people; they are not a dysfunctional couple, which is kind of wonderful in the theater," Pullman says. "There is an incredible thrill in portraying people being that intimate with each other, particularly by the arguments they present to each other and as they try to maintain their relationship. 

 "Throw into the mix a gay son (played by newcomer Jeffrey Carlson) whom they love dearly and you have quite a story," Pullman says. "In the end, the play is about the chaotic nature of passion: how mysterious passion can be and how society can be at war with those needs and drives." 

 Albee has subtitled the play "Notes Toward a Definition of Tragedy," which it is, Pullman says, but it also is very funny. 

 Working with director David Esbjornson and Albee has been a learning experience. 

 "I am an actor who listens to what the playwright says, but I give my list of questions to the director," Pullman says. "I am not used to having a playwright around in the middle of the rehearsal process, but Edward has been supportive. He is sometimes cagey about what things mean, but often he is very direct. I don't find him disguising a lot." 

 "The Goat" is Pullman's first time back on a New York stage since a memorable production of Sam Shepard's "Curse of the Starving Class" off-Broadway in the mid-1980s. 

 What took him so long to return? 

 "I don't know," he says with a laugh because he was always a stage actor first. Pullman moved to California not to do movies or television, but rather to work in theater. He went to join the Los Angeles Theater Center, a quirky, offbeat company, that the actor says was like "the Public Theater here in New York, doing plays that were socially driven as well as revisiting classics." 

 The Theater Center died six years later, but by then Pullman had established himself in films, appearing in such diverse fare as "Spaceballs" for Mel Brooks, "The Accidental Tourist," "Sleepless in Seattle" and "Casper." 

 These days, Pullman lives with his wife, Tamara, and three children in both California and Montana, which is where he worked during summers doing Shakespeare outdoors. He moved there after graduating with a master's degree in directing from the University of Massachusetts. "I wanted to go out West AND do theater," he says, so he started teaching theater at Montana State University in Bozeman. 

 But Pullman knew he wanted to do more and came to New York in the early '80s. He got his break in "Curse of the Starving Class," appearing in the well-received revival with Kathy Bates. In one of the scenes, Pullman had to enter totally naked carrying a sheep. 

 Don't worry. There's no such scene in "The Goat." 

 "I guess Broadway means you don't have to have a live animal itself on stage," Pullman says.

 

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